It's good to have a sense of what to talk about at an internal study session on "Let Chaos Speak."
kei.iconWhat would you like to see happen in this conversation?
nishio.iconIt's good to have a sense of what to talk about at an internal study session on "Let Chaos Speak."
kei.iconWhat is the "streak" of this "streak"?
nishio.iconIt's about where you start your story and what you land on via what.
kei.iconWhat is the "story" about?
nishio.iconOne hour story. Oh yeah, I can't decide how to end it because I can't estimate the volume after all.
kei.iconIs there anything else about that "story"?
nishio.iconI want to make sure my understanding is solid by doing that.
kei.iconWhat kind of "I" is that "I"?
nishio.iconI'm going to have a study session on the KJ method for another matter, so I want to make sure I understand it well.
kei.iconWhat kind of "understanding" is that "understanding"?
nishio.iconIndeed. To be able to answer questions from the participants and to improve the future lives of the participants who hear the answers.
kei.iconWhat is the "answer" to this question?
nishio.iconIt needs to be convincing to the learner.
kei.iconWhat kind of "participant" is this "participant"?
nishio.iconPeople who have experience with the KJ method itself, but are not quite sure how to use it.
kei.iconWhat kind of "KJ method" is this "KJ method"?
nishio.iconSure, this is clumsily lumped under the term KJ method, but it's a low-resolution concept, and since KJ method is a means, not an end, maybe it's better to focus on the end.
kei.iconIs there anything else about that "KJ method"?
nishio.iconSurprisingly, about 90% of Jiro Kawakita's own works are not KJ method but expedition net
kei.iconWhere is that "KJ method"?
nishio.iconFirst, it was introduced in party science, then it became a long seller with its idea method, various books were published, and 20 years later, "Let Chaos Speak" was released.
kei.iconWhat is it that you value?
nishio.iconThere are many updates to "Let Chaos Speak" compared to the well-read "Ideas", and if more people know about it, those who didn't understand it well at the "Ideas" stage will have a better chance of understanding it.
kei.iconWhat is the relationship between that "let it speak" and "let chaos speak"?
nishio.iconThey're pointing to the same book.
kei.icon
There are many updates to "Let Chaos Speak" compared to the well-read "Ideas", and if more people know about it, those who didn't understand it well at the "Ideas" stage will have a better chance to understand it.
What kind of "chaos to speak of" is this "chaos to speak of"?
nishio.iconThe paper is devoted to talking about W-type problem-solving methods, exploratory studies, and exploratory nets, not just the KJ method.
kei.iconWhere is this "KJ method"?
nishio.iconDistributed in three places, first the narrow KJ method, then the cumulative KJ method, with a light touch on what we do as a group.
kei.iconWhat is that "KJ method" like?
nishio.iconAn easy way out of the fog of blindness, to use Jiro Kawakita's words.
kei.icon
There are many updates to "Let Chaos Speak" compared to the well-read "Ideas", and if more people know about it, those who didn't understand it well at the "Ideas" stage will have a better chance to understand it.
What else can you tell us about this "let chaos speak"?
nishio.iconI think you are dealing with chaos, or rather, with a large amount of data that is beyond your capacity. If you perceive it as negative chaos, your mind unconsciously shuts out information. By recognizing the large amount of data as "something that comes out of it," or "something that speaks to you," it is beneficial to have an attitude of "What does it speak to me? It is beneficial to have an attitude of mind that says, "What does it tell us?
kei.iconWhat kind of "chaos" is this "chaos"?
nishio.iconEven with the same amount of data, new things are more likely to be created when items that seem to be related are placed close together than when they are shuffled and arranged in a square. and the question prompts verbalization.
kei.icon
"Chaos", or dealing with "a large amount of data beyond your capacity". If you perceive it as negative chaos, your mind unconsciously shuts out information. By recognizing massive amounts of data as "something that comes out of it," or "something that speaks to you," it is beneficial to have an attitude of "What does it speak to me? It is beneficial to have an attitude of mind that says, "What does it tell us?
Is there anything else you can tell us about this "chaos"?
nishio.iconChaos is an important key word, so maybe we can dig a little deeper into what Jiro Kawakita says.
kei.iconWhere is this "chaos"?
nishio.iconNot the label itself, but the "shadow" that is "behind" if you want to use a positional metaphor to describe it.
kei.icon
Chaos is an important key word, so maybe we can dig a little deeper into what Jiro Kawakita says.
How do you know about this "chaos"?
nishio.iconWe need to train ourselves to pay attention not to the words themselves, but to what is behind them.
kei.icon
Chaos is an important key word, so maybe we can dig a little deeper into what Jiro Kawakita says.
Where does this "chaos" come from?
nishio.iconThose who think of chaos negatively may perceive it as chaos coming from outside of themselves and attacking them. Those who think of chaos positively may see it as a fountain of creativity rising from within. Fountain or plant metaphor.
kei.iconWhat does that "chaos" look like?
For some reason, the export to Scrapbox was interrupted halfway through.
Land of abundance
nisbot
There are many updates to "Let Chaos Speak" compared to the well-read "Ideas", and if more people know about it, those who didn't understand it well at the "Ideas" stage will have a better chance to understand it.
What kind of "let it speak" is this "let it speak"?
Plants grow out of the rich earth.
nisbot
There are many updates to "Let Chaos Speak" compared to the well-read "Ideas", and if more people know about it, those who didn't understand it well at the "Ideas" stage will have a better chance to understand it.
Where is this "let chaos speak"?
I have it, it's not in the hands of many people because it's expensive and thick, but the content is useful to reach many people
nisbot
There are many updates to "Let Chaos Speak" compared to the well-read "Ideas", and if more people know about it, those who didn't understand it well at the "Ideas" stage will have a better chance to understand it.
How do you know this "let chaos speak"?
I don't remember how I knew. In terms of how you know the content, read on.
nisbot
There are many updates to "Let Chaos Speak" compared to the well-read "Ideas", and if more people know about it, those who didn't understand it well at the "Ideas" stage will have a better chance to understand it.
What do you hope will happen regarding this "let chaos speak"?
I'd like to see it chopped into smaller units and widely distributed.
nisbot
What needs to happen to "let chaos speak" for that to happen?
It needs to be chopped, and there is no point in simply storing a huge amount of chopped products in a warehouse, so a system is needed to get them to the people who need them.
nisbot
As for "let chaos speak," can it?
At any rate, it seems like a good idea to take the first step of reaching the "people in need" who are in front of us right now.
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